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"Master Speaks"

"Questions and Answers to Reverend Sun Myung Moon"

Chapter 4

The Master Speaks On The Restoration And Judgment

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These questions and answers have been
transcribed from tapes made during our Leader's
sessions with members and guests at Centers
throughout the United States during his trip in
March & April 1965.

Question: In terms of laying the foundation for the world restoration

the number 144,000 is given. We have seen the example of the compass

and were told that it has made a sweep of about half the full circle.

That was some time ago. Where are we now?

Answer: When the nation of Korea accepts us officially, then the

circle will be completed. That will be the inner circle. Then the

world and universal circle will start and be completed based on that

inner circle. The inner circle will become the center or point for the

next circle. By the blessing of the 120 couples, the condition was

made to restore the whole world.

Question: The judgment is here, but is there also a final judgment in

which all men will be judged at the same time?

Answer: Yes. There is already judgment in our hearts, isn't that so?

We know this in daily life. In this way God protects us from evil and

guides us into good. There will be a final judgment besides this. When

God establishes His sovereignty on earth and has direct dominion over

all people and the world, He will separate good and evil. Anything

against God's purpose will be discarded. God will get rid of things

and people who are against Him, His love or His truth. He will not be

tolerant of things and people who are not fully His own.

But, as our Principle teaches, God will not desert any person

eternally. By some means of restriction they will be restored. He will

restore them eventually, but meanwhile He will restrict them and make

them good. Satan chastises, curses and damns people by force, and

turns them from good to evil. He brings about sadness and destruction

and death. God will use the opposite way. He will use His force to

restrict and chastise people in order to turn evil ones to good. God's

method, although done by force, still brings joy and happiness to


Question: If it will take Satan almost an eternity to be restored, and

the world will be restored within our leader's lifetime, then does

that mean the physical world will be restored soon, but that the

spirit world will take much longer?

Answer: Yes, after all earthly people are restored, it will take a

long time for the spirit world to be completely restored because there

are so very many spirits who must be restored through the principle of

resurrection through people on earth. It will be much faster for

earthly people to be restored. The number of spirits is very great.

And they must go through the resurrection in an indirect way. The most

urgent matter is to restore the nation. When the nation is restored

things will be done officially between nation and nation. The work in

America and other parts of the world will be done very fast. I will be

able to send ambassadors to each country to contact the top leaders of

each nation. It will become easy to influence the United Nations and

do something through that organization. This time is not far distant.

I met the youngest brother of the Emperor of Japan while I was there.

Also many of the most influential ministers of the Japanese

government. One of them is a member, and most of them have heard the

Principle all the way through. It is this type of person we want to

reach. I plan to send missionaries out to 12 nations. For this reason,

I wish to go into Mexico and cross the border into Canada while I am

here. How many of you will be able to go to other countries? I plan to

visit 12 countries on this trip, and I wish missionaries to follow

immediately. After this is done, we will form international missionary

teams. I wish also to make a movie of the Principle. When Chapter III

is dramatized and shown on the screen to Christians, would they not

think about it? Presented as religious teaching, the Principle meets

with opposition. But in a movie the reaction will not be so strong. It

should all be done professionally. A Korean movie company wanted to do

this but I refused. It was too small a company.

Question: If man had not fallen, how soon would he have progressed

through the various stages of civilization?

Answer: Modern civilization has been established in the past 400 years

since the Protestant Reformation. If man had not fallen we would have

reached this point very rapidly. Look at the progress which has been

made in the past 50 years. When man is not civilized, he has been

instructed through intuitive revelation. Today people make artificial

flowers that are so realistic. If man had not fallen, he could have

accomplished this through intuitive revelation much earlier.

Creativeness is a gift to man. The engine in any machine plays the

role like a heart in a human body. A computer is like a human brain.

All mechanical development is nothing more than the revealing and

disclosing of the structure of a human being in a material way. A

communication system is like our nervous system. Man has not invented

anything. He has just discovered what was already there within

himself. He has nothing to brag about. The organization and system of

the whole world are in you already, and not all has been revealed yet.

There is much more to be revealed.

Question: In reading Col. Pak's writings, he said that if there had

not been a fall there would not have been a realm of Formation and

Growth which we would have to go through. The Kingdom of Heaven would

be the only realm.

Answer: Let us take the example of a chestnut. It has thorns and it

has several layers. There is the outside one, then the shell, then the

husk, then the meat. It has three skins. Any fruit has several parts.

outward skin, inward meat, and the core. But nuts have an outward

skin, then a hard shell, then a thin peel before you get to the nut

itself. Those several skins grow together, but when the nut is not

quite mature, when it is raw, the meat is not fully created. The meat

or flesh is the seed of the next generation. If you plant a seed which

is not mature, the tree does not come out. But you cannot see whether

the flesh is mature or not. The flesh and its coverings all grow at

once. A baby boy has all the potential to become an adult man. As the

physical body grows, so does the spiritual body. It takes man only

about 20 years to grow to perfection. But because of the fall it has

taken 6000 years, divided into three stages. The three stages grow


Question: You said the seed grows after the outward skin. Then that

would mean there are stages of growth.

Answer: Yes, but it is a much shorter period. Because of the fall we

expanded 20 years of growth into 6000 years. We cannot say the three

stages do not exist, but they grow together so harmoniously, each

stage blending into another, that it is very difficult to distinguish

the difference between them.

Question: Is there such a thing as a perfected child -- that is

children of perfected parents?

Answer: No, their position is that of Adam's prior to his fall. They

can also fall if parents do not raise them carefully. They are free

from original sin, but they must still grow. The parents, blessed

couples, must be particularly careful with the love affairs of their

children. Otherwise they can fall.

Question: What happens if they fall?

Answer: They have to start all over again, but it will not take 6000

years. But the regulation or law about it should not yet be announced,

so I cannot tell you.

Question: This would not affect all mankind, would it?

Answer: No, because there are True Parents and True Children. The work

will continue with them and they can do something about it. The

children who have fallen cannot affect the whole.

Question: There is a principle in nature where a rotten leaf will fall

off the tree. In order for life to come back to it, it has to be

grafted back to the tree. Would a principle of this type hold with

fallen children?

Answer: There will be a very strict law about this. Adam and Eve were

driven out of the Garden. Likewise, if children are driven out of the

Kingdom, they will never be blessed in marriage on earth. It will be a

very strict law, but it is not to be announced yet. There is a

Confucian teaching in the Orient which says that when children become

seven years old, boys and girls should not sit together.

Leader's comments: What can I do with this adulterous America? Without

our movement America will decline because of this corruption. It is

urgent that you approach your teenagers quickly before they are

defiled. Today is the day of fruit, not tree or root. Therefore Adam's

sin is bearing fruit through his offspring. That is why adultery is so

predominant all over the world. The Lord of the Second Advent must

judge this evil and corruption and cleanse the world, making it new.

You must work quickly or your nation will decline.

Inwardly speaking, in the realm of heart, families are being

destroyed, nations are breaking down. In ancient times people were

well united. In this day people don't feel very nationalistic. Ties

are breaking down and becoming very individualistic. Even couples are

not uniting well and are breaking down. But outwardly the world is

becoming united and is working toward oneness. This is God's

providence. Outwardly we move toward oneness, but inwardly we hate

this individualistic way of living and the breaking apart of families

and nations. In this way God is destroying and breaking down the

satanic world, while outwardly He is preparing and forming the one

world He is to establish. Through the ministry of the Lord of the

Second Advent, God will re-create the hearts of people and re-form

individuals, families and nations again. This outward preparation is

being done now. Soon the inward and the outward will become one, and

the perfect world will be established. America is leading the whole

world in terms of this breakdown.

Do you prefer to go to an old people's home when you get old, or to

live with your children in love? The Lord will bring families who will

never divorce, nations which will never divide. After the inward and

outward are united and become perfect, then the individual will regard

the family as more important; families will regard the tribe or nation

as more significant; and the tribe or nation will regard the world as

more important. In the communist bloc you can see the pattern. They

regard the nation higher than the family, and the family greater than

the individual. They are teaching a lesson to us, but in a satanic

way. We will do it God's way.

The democratic bloc must endeavor to bring all religious groups into

one, since the communists claim there is no God. Some years ago the

Dhali Lama of Tibet fled from Tibet to India. At that time America

should have helped Tibet organize some international organization of

religions, lending financial support. Had this been done, God could

have used it to hasten His work. From now on conflict between

religions will be a big headache. The democratic world should, by all

means, bring unity of all religions. If religious groups are in

conflict the democratic world will be weakened. Because America has

not united these groups and made such an international organization,

she has failed in a sense to prepare the way for the Divine Principle.

If the Communists join with the Arabs, there will be great trouble.

Before this occurs, America should unite the religions, including the

Mohammedans. By all means, and using any amount of finance, this

should be done.

Question: What part do Germany and Japan play in the dispensation?

Answer: After World War II, Germany and Japan were taken into the

democratic world, they have been prospering. If those two nations

accept our cause, then God may send them to the front lines to fight

for Him. Then they are in the most blessed position because they will

be used by God to play important roles. Those who are taken from the

satanic side, like Abraham, are in Abel's position. These new nations

are in Abel's position on an international level. Older nations must

care for them. Older nations are in Cain's position. So the new

nations may go ahead of the older ones.

Question: Is a third World War inevitable ?

Answer: It is all up to the people of the world. God did not want Cain

to slay Abel. It was not Cain's fault alone. Abel was also wrong. This

we found through spirit. Abel irritated Cain, and was also

responsible. If the world and the leaders of the nations put our

movement at the front line, a world war can be avoided. If they do not

do things in accordance with the Divine Principle and God's

providence, then a war is inevitable.

So you have a great problem in America. Although the Divine Principle

came from Korea, it is needed even more in this country. Unification

is not a simple thing. I had to struggle with each group in the spirit

world, win each struggle, and become the final victor. Then I could

bring it down and start the battle on earth. I talked with many

founders of great religions, many masters on the spirit side regarding

the purpose of their religions. They said the purpose of all religions

was to fulfill the will of God. In order to fulfill the will of God,

what is the center of it? It is to find a True Man. Then what is a

True Man? The True Man must know the truth, and by the truth he must

attain a God-like personality. He must live the truth and must be able

to subjugate Satan by the truth.

If he does not have the personality perfectly in accordance with the

truth, then he cannot subjugate Satan. After he achieves that

personality, his heart must become one with God's heart. With this

truth and this personality, he must become the center of the spiritual

and physical worlds. Standing in this central position, he would be

able to feel the heart of God and become one with Him. In becoming one

with God, he could know the exact feeling of God, why He created the

world, and the purpose of His creation. He could feel God's desire and

hope and love in creating mankind and the world. I discussed these

things with the masters, but they did not have all these answers. So

one after another they were subjugated. In that way I won the victory

in the spirit world, and became the Lord in the spirit world first.

Then I began struggling on earth, and am now subjugating people and

nations with this truth. Since the masters in the spirit world are

already subjugated, they are responsible for witnessing and testifying

to our movement through mediumistic people. Otherwise they will be

judged, because they know what has already been done.

But these same masters will sometimes tell you not to come to our

movement. Why? All religions were started by some kind of revelation.

They all had some mission. Each founder, in order to start his

mission, has had some responsibility. On the final day when God's will

is completely fulfilled, these founders are to bring a certain number

of dedicated followers to God. The higher and larger the religion, the

more people the founders must bring on the final day. Supposing Buddha

has 10 million people to bring to God. Then Buddha is responsible for

testifying to his followers what our Leader has done, and what our

truth stands for. But he might tell them not to join us now, because

if he loses members he will not be able to bring the proper number to

God on the final day. He will not be able to fulfill his mission. So

he will discourage his members from joining with us immediately, What

the members must do then, is to become very revolutionary and leave

that religion. In so doing, they will become higher than the founders

of that religion.

If a Buddhist is revolutionary and leaves the Buddhist religion to

join the Divine Principle, he will become higher than Buddha. That is

one reason so many people do not come to our movement, although they

testify to us, And that is why our Leader says it is not good to be

controlled by spirits at this time. They will hold you. When this time

is past, the founders of other religions will have to leave their

members alone and not restrict their coming to the Divine Principle,

even though they may fail in the process.

Question: Is this true of Christians and Jesus, too?

Answer: Yes.

Question: Since I am in the military I am a little concerned Principle

tells us that communism with destroy itself, but it doesn't leave out

the possibility of a world or global conflict. In the light of the

behavior of people today, is there this chance that we could have such

a conflict?

Answer: If the communist world is divided within itself, and if it

subjugates itself to the free world, we can avoid a global war. In the

communist world there is also Cain and Abel. Communist China is in

Abel's position; Communist Russia is in Cain's position. Even in the

satanic world Communist China is in the Abel position.

Question: Then the Soviet Union should subjugate itself to Communist


Answer: Because it is the satanic side, it is worse. The Cain side of

Communism is rather approaching the Western world. There is a strong

possibility of division among the communist countries. This is good.

If the democratic world is truly united and becomes strong, they will

attract and absorb the satellite nations. What I am doing now, the

blessing of Holy Grounds, is to achieve the subjugation of communism

in the future. I am working for that goal. When the Cuban situation

arose in 1962, I said that President Kennedy should be strong and

strike them. Then Khrushchev would leave Cuba. And they did. When

Khrushchev visited the United Nations and struck the desk with his

shoe, I said, "Now will be the end of Khrushchev and Communism. Satan

is shouting on top of the world, so his end has come." They will

decline from that time on.

Question: In this country we have the choice in time of war of saying

that we will fight or that we want to do God's work only. What do you

recommend for our young men?

Answer: It's up to you. Do as your conscience commands.

Leader's Question: You have studied the Principle in the course of

self-restoration. How do you achieve perfection of your personality?

How can you be recognized as a victor in this progressive achievement

of God's dispensation from individual to universal?

God always seeks persons better than those who have gone before. In

other words, in the individual level you have to exceed the level of

Adam. In the tribal dispensation, you must exceed the faith of Abraham

and Jacob. In the national level, you must exceed even the spirit of

Jesus. God always seeks people better than those in the past. Jesus

said, "You must exceed in righteousness the scribes and the

Pharisees." He also said, "Greater things than these will you do." I

have opened the way for you to be better.

When you study the dispensations for Adam's family or Noah's family or

Abraham's family, don't just study by letters and words. You have to

feel the responsibility of restoring what Noah lost, or what caused

Adam to fall, or what Abraham failed in. Don't be a spectator to the

history of the restoration, but be the host and feel as if you have to

do something about these failures. This is what I have been feeling. I

didn't feel that this was anther's story, anther's failure. Noah

failed. What can I do to restore this, to make indemnity? What can I

do about Abraham's failure? Don't be a third person, looking at it all

from the outside. Really struggle and feel heartache for these events.

Take upon yourself the failure of the mistakes. I have shed tears and

struggled to do these things by myself. You must feel the same

struggle as I have gone through to open the way for you. You must feel

the same things I have. Otherwise there will be no relationship

between us in heart, and no actual relationship between you and God.

You are just looking at everything from the outside as a spectator.

Take the entire responsibility of history upon your shoulders. Until

you come to that point it is still my Principle, not yours.

When you really feel responsible and take the responsibility upon

yourself, then your personality will grow. When you study and think of

the history of restoration and you feel no tears in it, you are not a

true follower. If you don't feel like sacrificing everything and doing

something about this, you are still form-spirits. But when you do,

then the Principle will become real to you, this cause will be yours,

and all the victorious foundation will be yours, and God will be

yours. Thus you will become His child. When you are called to take

upon yourself the responsibility of all 6000 years, by yourself, how

would you feel? When I came across Abraham, I felt as if I was

offering my only son, as if I were preparing the wood to burn. I

prepared the altar as if I were truly involved in this. I did

everything, except it was all symbolical. In that way I made

conditions to restore all history. One after another, Adam, Noah,

Abraham, etc. It had to be done in front of Satan. Otherwise I would

not have been able to go from one stage to another. So every period of restoration is my work.

My responsibility is to make indemnity for all those from Adam to the

Lord of the Second Advent. But you must take upon yourself the

responsibility of at least one person -- Adam or Noah or Abraham. You

must assume the responsibility of at least one stage, or even a part

of a stage. I am doing the whole, if you cannot do the whole, at least

do part of it.

If you were told to leave your country tonight, would you do as

Abraham did? Would you tell your wife to act as your sister and go

into Pharaoh's house? Would you pass over three national borders if

ordered to do so tonight? At least you must feel as Abraham did. If

you cannot actually pack up and leave, then shed your tears and pray

with the same heart. Otherwise your heart will never grow.

Suppose Abraham had not obeyed the order of God, "Go where I lead."

Then the mission would have been taken away from him at that time. If

you cannot take action, then you must feel and shed tears and pray

with the same heart. Then the call will be extended; God will wait for

you. The period for dealing with you will be extended. If you don't

have such heart or feeling, then it will be taken away.

Do not only study the Principle, but live the Principle in this way as

if you are facing those problems. Otherwise what is indemnity and

restitution? Indemnity with a small condition, a big debt is wiped

away. If you feel as if you are actually doing these things yourself,

God will count it as if you have done it by yourself.

Have you really understood how your heart and personality can grow?

When you reach this point, your spiritual self will become very

receptive. It will be easier for you from now on because of the

broadening of my influence. The members in Korea really suffered. It

has been beneficial to the whole world, but in the early stages there

was no benefit to them. They just struggled and fought on a dry ground.

There are many things that ordinary people cannot understand. If I

treated you as roughly as I did the Koreans, none of you would be

following. It is no wonder it has taken 6000 years. Who, in this small

world, can see that we are dealing with such a subject? We don't

belong to the same world that most people do. We live in an entirely

different world. Our dimension is much, much higher, and they cannot see it.

Question: You have said that, in order to round out our personality,

we should experience different aspects of life. There isn't enough

time on earth to experience all different kinds of life. What do you


Answer: Why did you go to the university if you were so busy? Why

didn't you just graduate from grade school? You must make an effort.

It doesn't mean you have to be a secretary for three years and a

college professor for another three years By understanding people in

different walks of life, you can feel the same things they do. By

understanding people in different environments you enrich yourself.

What has been taking place for 2000 years of the New Testament Age can

be restored by one individual who makes an effort 2000 times. We are

responsible to pay indemnity for the past 2000 years. We can do this

by experiencing life as much as 2000 people would experience it. A

week's adventure may cover 500 years of experience. The stress is on

adventure, a leap. If you go at a normal pace it will take 2000 years.

By suffering, you can leap. The more you suffer, the quicker your

course will be.

University and high school graduates should go to farm villages and

serve the simple people. In other words, they should bring down their

high status by serving as a servant. Suppose you have to pay indemnity

for 100 years. Is it not better to suffer greatly for 10 years so that

you can rest for the remaining 90 years? Don't postpone your


Question: We had hoped to present you with a few new people when you

arrived, but among Satan's other meddling in our affairs many of the

people we had been working on for quite a number of months suddenly

just dropped away and scattered.

Answer: These things will happen about three times before you really

see the beginning of the work.

Leader's Question: Don't you think, if heaven is a happy place, it

should be like this? Beloved mates should be together; they should not

be separated. I have suffered in order to find out all this.

Information is not enough. You have to live accordingly. So it has

been hard. To you this is only a family problem. To me it is a world


Suppose you lead three persons in a year. In ten years what a change

there will be! Those three persons pray and work to lead their three

persons, and so it goes. If you work as hard to get your children as

you do to earn your living, you will be successful.

Jesus was to lead 120 people by the time he was 40, but he died at 33.

He left seven years unfulfilled. That is the great tribulation of

seven years. That is why our group takes a seven-year course in


Question: What will Jesus' position be after the restoration is


Answer: Jesus will be the first and eldest son, because he was the

only one who came to this world as the Son of God.

Question: Do you mean God's eldest son, or the Master's?

Answer: The meaning is the same.

Question: The Kingdom of Heaven starts quickly in America. Why


Answer: How many people suffer and die and go to hell? If we shorten

the time we can save many lives. This will bring joy to God, will

lessen the suffering of human beings -- so the sooner the better!

Question: Does each dispensation have a different Savior?

Answer: Yes, but you believed in Jesus without knowing him actually in

the flesh. In this case, we enter the kingdom only as a family, not as

an individual. To form a family, you have to be blessed in marriage.

The only one who has the authority to bless New Age people in marriage

is our Leader. Therefore you have to have direct contact with him in

this dispensation. That is the difference.

Question: What about the cosmic calendar?

Answer: That is not so important. The most important thing is how to

restore the whole world.

Question: What about birth control?

Answer: Since God is not worried about over-population of the world,

we should not worry about it either. It is my observation that,

America can accommodate all three billion people, who populate of the


Question: Will man live longer in the New Age?

Answer: Yes. Whether you live 10 years or a thousand years, it is all

the same. Whether your life is meaningful or not is the point. One

seldom feels as if he has lived as long as he has. Yes, the life-span

will be longer because people will have good hearts and the

environment will not be evil. Physically, we will be healthier;

spiritually we will have less trouble. So naturally we will have a

longer life span.

Question: As the world is restored, will all sickness and illness


Answer: No. It will be greatly reduced. Even at that time there will

be accidents and death if people are careless. But they will know

ahead of time by their heart. A person will feel that he shouldn't

take a certain trip, for instance. By premonition, you will know

things in advance so they can be prevented. If you listen and take it

seriously, you can prevent risk. If you ignore the warnings and are

careless, you will be hurt.

Question: What about illnesses by germs and disease?

Answer: People will get old, even at that time. They will die. To get

old and to die, some bacteria may help. Why should one be afraid to

die? It is only a form of transmigration from the physical world to the spirit world.

Even if Adam and Eve had not fallen, they must still fulfill their 5% responsibility. If you are obedient to the intuition and wisdom you receive from God you can avoid many unhappy events. If you are disobedient you may get sick.

Question: Is there a significance to fasting other than self-denial?

Answer: Yes. If we fast for another who is perhaps just coming into

the movement, God uses this as a condition and Satan cannot attack

that person as severely. We fast not for ourselves, but for others and

for God. It is a means of helping others spiritually. But we are not

forced to do this. If you don't want to, you don't need to fast.

Question: What does it mean when you say men and women are raised back

to the status of Adam and Eve when they stand on Holy Ground?

Answer: After we find our True Parents and are restored to the

position of True Children through the blessing of marriage, then your

position is that of Adam and Eve prior to their fall. Even though you

are not actually, literally standing on the Holy Ground, still it is

as though you are standing on it. Strictly speaking, this takes place

after your blessing. But you receive the benefit before your blessing.

You are not yet in that position, but you are in the realm. You are

not in the literal position of the blessed ones. But, I regard you in

the same realm, with the hope that you will be blessed too. So you

must love the Holy Ground as the Land of God. The Holy Grounds are the

only estates of God in this country.

Question: Would you expand upon the element of vitality and the life


Answer: The element of vitality is the vital life-force of the body.

When we have give and take between the spirit-mind and the flesh-mind

in accordance with our conscience, which has been trained by the

Divine Principle or the Word of God, then our spirit can grow freely

from the energy or vitality produced. We may feel that we should

express love or truth from God, but if we do not do it our spirit

cannot grow. But when we express love through service to others, or

express truth so that others can grow in accordance with this truth,

then our spirit becomes vital. Thus in a sense the vital life element

consists of divine love and divine truth. The element of vitality

comes from the give and take which occurs between the spirit man and

the physical man. It is very important for us to keep our physical

body in good condition, because the physical body serves as the host

or soil for our spirit to grow. Our spirit is actually growing from

the vital life force in our physical body.

When your spiritual life is very active or very bright with active

give and take with God and you are full of joy and happiness inside,

does it not affect your health and physical life? That is the life

element. On the other hand, when there is perfect give and take within

your spirit and your body, when you live in accordance with your

conscience, even paying sacrifice in order to obey your conscience to

do good, you feel joy and happiness inside. Your physical life lived

in accordance with your conscience gives vitality to your spirit. When

you do something against your conscience no one may know about it, yet

you feel fear and weakness of your spiritual life. In other words, in

that case your physical body is not giving the element of vitality to

your spiritual life. Your spirit-man grows easily in health and in

beauty when your body completely obeys it and becomes one with it

through give and take. That is the element of vitality. There is

constant give and take between the spirit and physical body. When your

spirit is healthy your physical health is affected. When your physical

life is righteous and good, your spirit grows and receives more

strength and light and wisdom. We call the power which comes from the

spirit side 'life element,' and the power which comes from the

physical side, the 'element of vitality '

Question: My husband and I have the Divine Principle to help us along

our way. Certainly we were not satisfied with any church that we've

gone to. My concern now is with our children. I do not have wisdom,

but I have to guide my children.

Answer: The Divine Principle is presently being written so that

teenagers can read it and understand. You might teach your children

from this new manuscript. Don't try to teach it all. There are a few

points in each chapter which children can understand and apply in

their daily lives. Do not try to give too much at once, but little by

little. In teaching the Principle to your children, their spirits will

grow faster than yours. Often messages will come through them to you.

God uses the more innocent ones to teach you. This has often happened

among our members. The children receive far higher messages for their

parents than the parents themselves do. They will teach you very

definitely how God is living. When you do something against God's

will, they will immediately point it out. They will tell you what

indemnity you have to pay, what punishment you must receive, and so

on. Your children can be your guides. Children will teach you how God

is living in reality. It is said in the Bible that the little ones

will prophesy. This will be fulfilled. Since the Divine Principle is

not the word of man, it affects and works with the children very

uniquely and in a very different way from any other message. They will

be your teachers and guides and prophets. In Oklahoma, we met an

11-year-old boy whose parents have joined our movement. This boy had

already received about me and seen me clairvoyantly. He sees and

senses intuitively. He is so clever!

[Miss Kim:] A friend of mine, a full Colonel in the Korean Army, has a

son named Charlie. Charlie received so much for his parents and

grandparents. Often he would tell them something which the Leader

would tell them a week later. He would point out everything his father

had in his mind and heart. In front of Charlie, no one could hide

anything. When evil people would visit his house, Charlie would point

out that they were not good. Once he chased away a visitor who was not

a good man at all.

[Leader:] The highest education today is to teach that God is living.

This your children will do. Then they can be Principle workers when

they get older. They can be leaders of teenagers. So teach them!

Question: In the chapter on Resurrection, you say that man fulfills

his 5% by wisdom. What about love? Does this have anything to do with

our 5%? Are wisdom and love as one?

Answer: Wisdom in that case means that you should use your own

judgment. We should not depend upon spiritual guidance constantly.

Sometimes spirits give us the wrong message, or even an opposite

message to the truth. You must use your own judgment. As an

illustration, John the Baptist should have used his own common sense

and judgment to determine who Jesus was, using as a guide Jesus' words

and works rather than relying upon any message given to him from the

spirit side. The example of the Apostle Paul was given in Miss Kim's

book. Although he had a great experience on the way to Damascus which

he could easily have forgotten, he didn't. How many people have great

and wonderful spiritual experiences, and then just ignore or forget

them? Many of those who have been in our group and who are now

inactive received enough signs and proof, but they just ignored them.

They didn't use their sense and judgment.

Question: What is love?

Answer: Love is the power to unite. Love is the purpose of everything

and the essence of everything, the source of power and happiness. When

you love one another, you are happy and full of joy and energy.

Question: Is it important to know the difference between love and

wisdom, or is it important to know there is no difference?

Answer: Yes, it is important because of Satan. Often I use the word

"wisdom" as equivalent to "judgment," or judgment by reason. Because

Satan exists and constantly acts against you, you have to have wisdom

or the power of judgment or discernment. You must know what is evil

and what is good. You must constantly resist evil and separate good

from evil. Love is different. It is a uniting power. Through love the

divided spirit and body can be united. The divided heaven and earth

can be united. The divided God and man can be united. Love is the

uniting power which is absolute and necessary. Wisdom or discernment

or judgment is necessary, too.

Question: Does love beget wisdom, or does wisdom beget love?

Answer: They are two sides of the same thing. Let us put it this way:

The sun is heat in itself. Because it is heat itself, it has light.

When you have love, that love produces wisdom. When you come closer to

God, you feel greater love from Him. The greater love you feel from

God, the greater wisdom you will have. A mother may not be well

educated or bright, but for her beloved children she has wisdom. She

knows how to please her children. True love begets wisdom. To know

truth is not just an intellectual matter. By knowing truth, you must

become comparatively good. The highest form of love is good; the

highest form of intellect is wisdom, the next is truth. So to know

truth is to become good. To be wise is to be loving. Love or good is

the purpose; truth or wisdom is the means to reach the purpose. To be

good is the goal; to know the truth and to acquire knowledge or wisdom

are the means of being good. When you live the truth, you naturally

become good. You may be wise, knowing the difference between good and

evil, but if you do not reach for the highest goal of loving God and

man, what is the use of your wisdom? Your wisdom will not develop any

further. Love is the content; wisdom is its form. Good is the goal;

truth is its means. Good is higher than truth; love is higher than

wisdom. There are two aspects to wisdom: One is to know outward

things; the other is to know inward things. To know inward things is

the wisdom of love. Therefore, true wisdom is to discern what God

loves and what God does not love, where the love of God exists.

Catholic doctrines, Unitarian teachings, Divine Principles -- true

wisdom is to discern which is really God's will and where God's love

exists. In which teaching, in whom, in what action in your daily life

does God's love exist. Particularly at this time on God's timetable,

you must know through whom God is working and in whom He is dwelling.

Question: What is the improvement in this dispensation? I thought when

Jesus Christ came he said love was the fulfillment of the law. Isn't

all our trouble dual vision -- good and evil, judging by appearances?

Jesus said to never judge by appearances but to judge righteous

judgment. If we live that way, isn't that the opposite of this


Answer: But no one has succeeded in living that way perfectly. If

Christians say that they have succeeded and are now living that way,

they are wrong. There is something wrong with the way they are living.

Our message deals with the root of evil, how we can dispense with it

completely and free mankind from it.

Question: In the introduction to your book, Miss Kim, you mention a

sequel. Could I write these things in a book for the public? It's the

subject matter which is of interest. As we begin to set up things

within the Principles, we would like to know what principles to follow

and how to set things up, if it's different from the way things are

organized in the satanic world.

[Leader:] If you know too much about the future, you will not be

comfortable. You will have to pay too much indemnity. This subject is

quite complicated, and I have already told you many things. What has

already been told is enough for half of a new book. Anything you need

to know will be told.


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