These questions and answers have been
transcribed from tapes made during our Leader's
sessions with members and guests at Centers
throughout the United States during his trip in
March & April 1965.
Question: How could Lucifer have been the rogue in this fall, since
supposedly everything, including the angelic kingdom, is created in
the image of God?
Answer: There wasn't evil in Lucifer's mind from the beginning. He had
only desire, which is not evil in itself. He had a desire to receive
more love from God, and he envied Adam because of the greater love he
received from God. The desire itself was not evil. When you have
desire, you have the ability to compare yourself with others . When
you find someone else receiving more grace and more love, you
naturally envy them. Lucifer misused his desire.
His desire led to misbehavior.
Lucifer learned and discovered that, through the give and take of love
between a subject and an object, the entire creation and the entire
universe are maintained. The whole universe is ruled by that love and
that power. After he learned this, he knew that it was Adam who would
be in the position of government. In other words, the central point of
the entire universe was the give and take of love between a subject
and an object. With this knowledge, when Lucifer saw Eve and contacted
her often, he began to have give and take of love with her. As you
studied in the Principle, the power of love is so absolute and strong
that it drove him to entice her. In that way,
evil was created.
There was no evil in the beginning. Lucifer acted against the
Principle. That became evil. Evil is not something entirely different
from love. Evil is the misuse of love. Good is the right and proper
use of love. Good and evil started from one point -- love. If we love
God, that is all right. But if we love something or someone against
God's will, that is evil. If we love someone or something in
accordance with God's will, that is good.
Because the power of love was so strong, God had warned that Adam and
Eve not even touch one another. Don't even look at the knowledge of
the tree of good and evil. It is too tempting. This means, don't even
contact the opposite sex until you are allowed to do it. If you
contact, you are tempted. If you go to a certain point, you can't
trust yourself not to go farther. So don't start. On this matter, the
outlook is very strict. We are all human beings and we know how
tempting love can be. We do not even like to have men and women going
somewhere together, because we know that humans are not strong. This
may be a great problem in America, but it is essential. Never trust
yourself too much. My dispensation is to establish a new lineage of
Question: How would you procreate a new generation under those
Answer: I make several conditions before I bless. Through the
blessing, you produce a new generation. At the ceremony, I use a holy
wine which was made through special revelation. through the use of
this holy wine, your body is cleansed. The wine signifies a new life.
I could not make this wine until I had made enough conditions and
received sanction from God. It tastes very much like grape wine, but
it is made of 12 materials. After It was made, many spirits came and
asked for a cup of it. In our group, we don't use liquor at all. Only
a small portion of wine when we are blessed.
Question: Is Satan a man with a separate power from God, or is Satan
man's negative or error thinking - giving power to fear, greed,
jealousy, hate, sickness, revenge, etc.? Is Satan a power other than
God, or is God all power? By Satan do you mean "negative". That is,
man using God's substance in the wrong way?
Answer: Satan is an entity and power other than God. A person invites
Satan, not just because the person is evil, but also because he may
have evil ancestors who accumulated the power of evil. A person may be
born into an environment where the power of evil is strong. The person
himself may not be so evil, but because of this environment or these
ancestors, he cannot help felling hatred, jealousy, and negative
things. If that person tries to be good by means of religion and
education, and chooses good leaders and a good environment to live in
-- in other words, if he makes an effort -- the evil power which has
been influencing him can be gradually weakened. Even the government
can help in making a better environment for its people. They can
provide a more moral, more religious environment which can help people
to be free from evil influence.
Question: Lucifer was a spirit. How could he
stain our blood ?
Answer: There is no difference between the spiritual and the physical
as far as power is concerned. Energy is power. A child is created by
energy. Is not spiritual energy even stronger? The fact that the
relationship between Lucifer and Eve was a spiritual relationship
means simply that it was invisible to physical eyes. It is the same
energy, only stronger and higher. Don't say that it was spiritual and
therefore no blood relationship was involved. It was even stronger
than a blood relationship.
Present day science sees no difference between the spiritual and the
physical. The spiritual cannot be sensed by physical senses, but the
only difference is one of dimension. The rate of vibration is higher.
It is all part of the spectrum of energy. A seed contains all the
potential to become a big tree, but the big tree cannot be seen in it.
But the power is all there.
Question: Adam and Eve were told not to eat of the fruit of the
knowledge of good and evil. Were they told in the same way in which
our Master was told the Divine Principle, by having an even conscience
-- that is, on a level -- and then establishing a vertical contact
with God. If not, then how were they told? They were in the Indirect
Dominion; and God did not tell them directly,
The 90 degree angle was not necessary for Adam. It is only necessary
for us because we are under satanic domination, so we have to have an
even conscience to receive God's thought. It did not apply to Adam.
The command not to eat of the fruit was given to Adam by God directly.
It did not violate the Indirect Dominion. The Direct Dominion of God
implies the Direct Dominion of man's love by God. Apart from this
love, God could teach them directly, even in their Growth Stage. He
could give the command directly, but He could not interfere or have
dominion over Adam and Eve's love directly. If Adam and Eve had asked
God whether they should respond to Lucifer, then God could have told
them directly. When I said that I make a condition beforehand, I mean
that I always ask God if it is all right to offer my offering. Then
God is responsible to answer. But Adam and Eve did not ask God. So in
the indirect dominion, if you ask God, He has to tell you. But God
cannot control human love. That happens only
in the Direct Dominion.
Question: What do you mean by "control
Answer: During the time when children are growing, they do not know
love. These days, children see through TV and through parents, they
see the love affair before they really mature and sense by themselves.
In Adam and Eve's case, they had nothing to see. They did not know
about sexual love. As long as they didn't know anything about it, God
could not teach them. God had to wait until they matured and knew
something about it before they could come under His Direct Dominion.
Until that time, God could not tell them, "Don't do this. Don't have a
sexual relationship with Lucifer". Through natural growth and
development, they would have matured and learned to know of love. Then
God could have blessed them in marriage. They were just to grow
naturally, and when they reached the point when they came to know one
another, then God wanted to bless them. It is different from the state
of children today. They know things before they
So Direct Dominion means direct control of their love by His love. In
all other things, God could give them a direct command, but not about
love relationships. Lucifer knew about sexual love before Adam and Eve
were aware of it. He was not told this directly, but knew it in his
Question: What exactly was God referring to when he told Adam and Eve
not to eat forbidden fruit? What did He actually
Answer: When God told Adam not to eat of the forbidden fruit, Lucifer
heard it too. God would not have told them, "Don't eat the fruit of
the tree of knowledge..." as the Bible says. This is only a poetic
expression. If I tell you exactly what they were told, it would not be
good. This information is not written anywhere, and if I say it now
what I say will spread. Even though God told them fairly clearly, Adam
and Eve did not take it seriously. God said, "Don't respond to
Lucifer's temptation. Don't love him." But those things did not sound
serious to them. When one is too young and is not aware of things,
some commands do not make sense. You cannot tell things too early. But
the angel knew.
Question: Did Lucifer have any idea of what the consequences would be
when he took the stand he did against God?
Question: The Bible infers that Satan will be cast out forever. Will
he be restored completely?
Answer: Of course. But it will take almost an eternity for it to
happen. He has a great deal of indemnity to pay. Lucifer will not be
restored to his original position, but will serve in the lowest
position. You don't need to think about it now. Your problems are not
Question: You say that Adam is in hell. Did he not achieve anything
through Jesus then?
Answer: No, he had no common base to work with Jesus. They had the
same mission, but Adam lost that mission by
Question: I would appreciate any wisdom you can give us on the subject
of dealing with Satan.
Answer: If you continue with your work steadfastly and with firm
faith, Satan may disturb you once, twice, or three times. But if you
are not shaken in your resolve, he will leave you and work somewhere
else. If you are not influenced by him, he will not waste time with
Question: We notice that when we bring someone new into the Center,
Satan will work through the new people because we are a little
stronger and can resist his attacks. How can we help get Satan away
from these new people?
Answer: You must fight with Satan and conquer him. As time goes on,
this will be less troublesome. At this stage, you must fight
individually. This is the cross the Lord has been bearing alone. How
can you expect to get away so easily?
Question: At what stage of development was man when the fall of man
Answer: When the fall of man took place, only the first two persons,
Adam and Eve, were involved. Before the fall they were in the growth
stage growing toward perfection; but they had not yet achieved it. The
fall, or deviation from the Principle, resulted in their separation
from God. Before the fall Adam and Eve were reflecting God's image,
but not to a perfected degree. When man reaches perfection, then no
deviation or fall is possible because perfection means unity or union
with God in love. Love is the strongest power in the universe. After
union with God, it is impossible to separate from this supreme power.
The fall occurred before man reached perfection.
Evil always creates disturbances and blocks our effort. If you are a
good man, you can go "around" to any place. Don't be a "square."
Center upon the Divine Principle and knock off the corners. Satan has
golden opportunities exploring the corners of
You will meet Satan at the gate of Heaven. Unless you defeat him you
cannot go in. Satan can manifest as a force against the Will of God,
or that power which blocks your way to God. This force may appear to
be either internal or external. When a person is a prisoner of Satan,
he acts according to Satan. Satan's spiritual
force can be external.
Satan tried to block or disturb all of our activities before our
Leader's arrival. Once our Leader had arrived Satan and his followers
had to go. They had done their best and had no further reasons to
stay. They have been driven out.
Jesus accomplished healing, in a similar way, by chasing out evil
spirits or demons. Jesus' great spiritual force caused the evil spirit
to depart and this allowed the victim to immediately become normal.
The evil influencing factor had been removed.