Rev. Kwak reads the recent revelations in Korean, and Rev.
Peter Kim translates. This will be published and create a
sensation in the entire world. No religious leader ever came up
with such amazing material. The true reality of spirit world and
physical world will be known. Those who understand will have
no choice but to join the Unification Church.
[Rev. Chung Hwan Kwak reads the manuscript of Dr. Lee's
report in Korean; Peter Kim translates it. What follows surely
very partial, but interesting.]
1. Karl Marx.
He was the head of all the evil people on earth. He was difficult
to locate. I found him in an area of small, humble sheds, full of
thousands of wounded, defeated soldiers. They were walking
toward somewhere, and I followed them, and they led to Marx,
standing on a hill exhorting everyone to continue the struggle.
I asked him for an interview, and Marx asked me what kind of
ideology I have. I said, "Victory Over Communism," and Marx
said, "I'm busy." But I persisted, saying that I should be treated
well as a guest. "Okay," he said, and then he lectured me, and
then I gave my lecture. I stressed the mistake of denying God as
the key point leading to doom and failure.
I invited Marx to go where I reside. Then he on the way began
to see all the beauty of nature and love making, and his heart
started melting. He decided he wanted to live there, but I said,
"You can't; it belongs to God." Marx said, "I want to meet
God," but I told him he couldn't.
I continued to lecture VOC and Divine Principle, and Marx
listened but still resisted. On the second day I gave lectures
back in Marx's area. Young people gathered and asked Marx's
permission to listen. Gradually Marx felt embarrassed to have
all his followers see that he was wrong. Marx started crying.
70% to 80% of Marx's followers accepted Divine Principle, but
Marx has not yet totally accepted it.
2. V. I. Lenin.
He was the head of the Bolshevik revolution, but in spirit world
he is one of the lowest people. When I tried to visit him, he
was easy to find, but the security around him was very tight. I
identified myself clearly as God's emissary to meet Lenin and
discuss his teaching. The security thought this was strange and
gave me a hard time, but finally I got through.
Lenin is stocky, handsome and short. I said I wanted to learn
Lenin's teaching. Lenin we evasive, and asked who I was. "I'm
a medical doctor," I said. He asked, "Why do you want to know
ideology?" Anyway, Lenin agreed to come the next day to my
But the next day and for several days he did not come and I
could not find him. He had left the area. After several days I
found him emerging from a small house with his followers. I
followed them, and they stopped for a meeting by a stream. I
hid in the stream and heard their talk. They were Lenin's top
followers, discussing that their regime was under attack, and
how were they going to defend themselves. They are paranoid.
The medium asked Dr. Lee how he travels in spirit world, by
foot? Dr. Lee: I travel by thought. I can have a car anytime and
use it to travel by thought.
3. Joseph Stalin.
He acted like God in the physical world, and people revered
him as such. In spirit world he is similarly revered, and he goes
out and gives speeches. His area consists of small mud huts,
filled with those who worship him. It is easy to find, but is
guarded by cautious, frightened people. I investigated the
avenues of access for several days. One day I saw several
people going into one house, led by Stalin. I disguised myself
as a beggar. I went in, and it was a house of those who
opposed Stalin, who had called Stalin for a truce meeting.
They wanted Stalin to call off the revolution and let them go
home. He said no. One woman was weeping over that.
I disguised myself and went to Stalin's house. The young guard
would let me in only if I would honor Stalin as king. Several
guards attacked me, and they beat me up and asked my
identity. I said I am an emissary from God, and I am here to
teach Stalin. Stalin appeared and said, "As God is busy, so am
I." Finally I said that I want to learn from him. Stalin said
"Okay, come back tomorrow."
On the way out, the security warned me not to come back. The
next day, we met in another place. Stalin asked me for a place
to hide so that he could teach his thought. I took him to my
place, and like Marx he started to enjoy it so much and he
wanted to stay there. I told him that the only way to stay is to
study what I teach. Stalin was impressed with the teachings
and asked where it came from. I said, "From my teacher, the
messiah." Stalin said that he was the messiah too. So he
doesn't yet recognize he was wrong.
The life of hiding, of shame or embarrassment, is the worst life
in spirit world.
4. Adolf Hitler.
He killed over six million Jews so I thought he would be among
evil spirits. But he was not to be found there. One day Lee
heard tens of thousands of people in chains, shouting and
screaming, marching. The scene looked like a battlefield, filled
with blood and smoke. Finally he found one man tied naked to
a tree. The people were shouting and spitting at him, stoning
him. On his chest was a sign which read, "King of the Nazis."
The people wanted to pull out his eyeballs and hair, and burn
I couldn't get close to Hitler. I felt sad and tried to think what I
could do for him. I prayed and God told me, "I understand your
heart about Hitler, but you must be patient until all the han of
those people is relieved. Hitler has to pay indemnity. You
cannot do anything. If you do, they will attack you."
I visited the scene many times, and it continued on and on. I
spoke to a pretty young woman, who told me that she was
killed just like you see Hitler be treated there. A man with many
chains said the same thing, and said, "I wish I could bury Hitler
in tons of chains." Words cannot express Hitler's suffering.
5. Benito Mussolini.
In the physical world, Mussolini focused on collecting
armaments to fight other nations. He considered that killing
people is not a crime, but is like killing an animal. If Stalin's life
in spirit world is one of hiding, Mussolini's is a life of a gypsy.
He keeps moving so that no one can trace him. I followed him,
unbeknownst. Mussolini talks to no one. He just stops for food
and moves on.
I finally grabbed him and said I wanted to speak to him.
Mussolini said, "I have no place to go to talk." I asked him to
come to my house. Mussolini said he wanted to stay in no
particular place. I said, "I also am a wanderer."
So Mussolini allowed me to wander with him several days.
Mussolini's curiosity piqued after a few days. I shared my life as
a medical doctor. Mussolini shared his life. "I am a criminal,"
he said, "so I cannot stay in one place or they will punish me.
Why did you come to find me?" I said, "I want to give you a
lecture." He said, "But I cannot stay in one place to hear it." I
said, "If you committed a crime, you have to pay for it."
I realized Mussolini has some goodness in his heart. Mussolini
opened up to listen at my house. Mussolini enjoyed the
beautiful nature. When he saw my wonderful bedroom, he
said, "Do you have only one wife?" because he had many
Then I gave all the main teachings, and Mussolini asked,
"Where did you learn it?" I said, "From my True Parents."
Mussolini said, "Your teaching is logical but too idealistic." So
Mussolini is still a beggar and wanderer, but someday he will
The medium's husband asked Dr. Lee: "I hear that you spoke
with Marx, Lenin, etc. -- what language are you using?" Dr. Lee:
"You do not use language; it's a matter of your will power.
Communication occurs through your will reaching that person."
6. Tojo (The leader of Japanese army in WW 2).
I tried to locate him. All Japanese people at that time had their
own god at their home, but Tojo put himself as his own
household god. I could not locate him until I passed by a deep
mountain where no one lives. I went in deeper and deeper
until I found a small village of huts. In one hut there were
several men, one was in deep pain laying on the floor. I put on
my hand and prayed as the emissary of God. The man sprang
up and wondered who this man was who removed that pain
which he had many years.
It was Tojo, who said no one would receive him in spirit world,
so he came there to shout out his pain where no one would
I said, "My True Parents in physical world told me to teach
you." I explained about True Parents as the real parents of
mankind. Tojo said, "Can they become my parents too?" I gave
three days of lectures. Tojo was weeping and repenting and
confessing. "What shall I do?" he said. I said, "Wait until the
Messiah comes to spirit world. Meanwhile keep repenting.
Then you can work with me to restore the spirit world."
7. Mrs. Kim, Hwa Lan
In the early days of the Unification Church, the early 1950s,
many Christian leaders in Korea strongly opposed Father. Most
notorious was Mrs. Kim, Hwa Lan, president of Ehwa Women's
University. She made the final decision to expel our women
leaders, Mrs. Gil Ja Sa Eu, Young Whi Kim's wife, Dr. Won Bok
Choi, Dr. Young Oon Kim, etc. She was an elite Korean society
leader. So I was curious about her status in spirit world.
I found a Christian group that had a picture of a beautiful
cloud. They were praying under it for the Lord of the Second
Advent to come. Another group had a person giving a lecture to
these elites. The lecturer said, "We as women keep a prayer
vigil with a candle until we receive the Lord of the Second
Advent, because we are in the position of his bride.."
At the end, I applauded loudly to get their attention. I was the
only man there, and they asked me who I was. I said, "I am an
emissary from God." They doubted it, because he looked too
intelligent, but I said, "The Lord of the Second Advent has
come and he is our True Parents and is working in physical
world to save mankind."
President Kim said heretics always say that. Lee gave a lecture
on parallels, the cross, the second advent, and other Christian
doctrines. Then he challenged them to call him a quack. They
challenged him, saying, "Whom do you want to meet? Why do
you come here?" I asked President Kim if she remembered the
name of Reverend Moon. She said no. "Do you remember the
Unification Church?" She said, "Yes, they were heretics." I
said, "The founder is Reverend Moon." President Kim asked if
she had committed a big crime, and if she is a criminal. I said
that God and history will determined that. Then they paid
attention. I said, "I will come tomorrow; will you listen to my
lecture?" She said maybe not. Then one women in audience
shouted that they would listen, and all the crowd agreed.
So I lectured for three days, and they all ended up crying,
singing a hymn and repenting. At the end, Kim asked what she
can do to comfort the expelled students and Unification Church
members whom she opposed. Dr. Lee said, "Remain as
president of university and welcome Reverend Moon as Lord of
the Second Advent and True Parents." Kim said, "I will do it
with a repentant heart."
The medium's husband asked, "Kim did so many bad things in
physical world to us. How could she enjoy her life in spirit
world?" Dr. Lee answered, "Her lifelong goal was to meet Jesus.
She is in spirit world living in a false dream, not having met
Jesus or the Lord of the Second Advent, is that a good life?"
8. Mary Pak.
Another evil woman, the wife of the Vice-President of Korea,
was also Vice-President of Ehwa under Kim. Her name is Mary
(or Maria) Pak. This was under Syngman Rhee's presidency.
She abused her power to persecute us, which led Father to
Sodaemun prison. She mobilized five government ministers to
destroy Father and the Unification Church. But when the trial
was over, Father was acquitted as completely innocent. The
country may not be fully aware, but the court record exists.
Korean Christianity did that much evil against Father,
representing Christianity in general, and especially the
American missionaries who were working with Mary Pak. The
American missionaries also worked with President Kim, and
they influenced American Christianity too against Father.
Ehwa Women's University was supported by a Christian
foundation in America. They were used by the American
foundation and also influenced it against Father. This is the
deep root of Father's history in America and America's decline.
God cannot smile upon America.
The direction to search out Mary Pak was God's direction, not
Father's. She was a most evil woman and her whole family was
involved. Before I went to see her, God said man wants to live
according to his own desire, but this desire should be the same
as God's, or their destiny will be miserable and their life will be
false. God sent a young woman to accompany me. We
searched for Mary Pak together. The young woman told me to
We went to a scary castle with a big gate; it looked like a
prison camp. As we entered, I encountered people who were
not human in form--eyes missing, limbs missing, their head
split open, so many kinds of wounds. These were all deformed,
crippled spirit men, screaming, gathered together. The young
woman pointed to Mary Pak. Her hands were stuck to her
mouth, covering her mouth. It is difficult for her to eat because
of this. More food is spilled than gets in. I asked her if that is
Mary Pak and she said with difficulty yes.
Nearby a man was standing with a bleeding chest. He was
Mary Pak's husband, Lee Gimbu. Their son was nearby. In the
physical world he killed both of them as traitors to the nation.
He was standing as a statue with a knife raised against them.
He couldn't move. I cried and prayed for forgiveness for them. It
had no reaction or effect.
I went home and God said, "Stop crying. The reason I showed
you that was so that you will be serious about your children in
the physical world following the right life. So tell this to them
and to all the Unification Church members."
9. Pak Tae Son.
He was a contemporary of Father's when the Unification
Church started. He was a Christian sect leader, well-respected
though controversial because he had such strong spiritual
power. When he prayed, people would throw him their
watches and rings. In spirit world he lives in arrogance of his
spiritual power. Simple-minded Christians who cannot even
pray surround him. His life has no significance. Lee could find
no other prominent Korean Christian ministers. The title
minister does not pass over to the spirit world.
10. Syngman Rhee.
He was the first president of South Korea. I tried to locate a
presidential mansion, but there was none. So I prayed and was
led by a beautiful singing voice. Suddenly the singing stopped,
and I was surrounded by mountains. I saw people going in and
out of the woods. I saw one man sitting alone, thinking deeply.
It was not Rhee, and did not know who Rhee is, but said to ask
at another house. I went to the house, but no one was around.
After a while, a man came out from the back, in ragged clothes.
It was Syngman Rhee.
I said to him, "I am an emissary of God." Rhee said, "Did you
meet God?" I answered, "Yes." He said, "Why would such a
noble person some here? I was the president but I am not
welcomed as a president, so I do not want to be in public. Even
God and Jesus abandoned me. As a president, I couldn't fulfill
That was all, but I intend to invite and teach him later. People
in the lower level than us in physical world are those who
opposed God's providence. We can call that hell in spirit world.
11. A special letter from Jesus to True Parents.
Thank you, True Parents, for your love, concern and prayer for
my family. Particularly thank you for the beautiful apartment for
my wife in the physical world. I cannot pay enough for that
blessing. Therefore my family will live a life to meet your
expectations and will continue to serve and follow Heung Jin
Nim for the providence of God. In spirit world the Christian
community is so vast that we cannot reach them easily, but it is
so close. You provided our own fence (?) and with this power
we will continue to try to open the gate for them.
I apologize that my name is so much worshipped in the
physical world. It shouldn't be that way, and I am sorry for that.
Your han will be relieved. Soon Christians on earth will have
dreams of my reality in the spirit world.
True Parents, I love my wife.
12. A letter from Choongmo Nim. (Choong means patriotism
and loyalty; Mo is mother.)
Father, I am your mom. I'm sorry that you have gone through so
much difficulty and suffering in your life, because of the lack of
foundation I made in physical world. Here I live with Daemo
Nim and I am learning a lot and realizing many things. If you
need, I will do whatever you ask. I want to be worthy of my
Someone found my photo recently after your 1991 trip to North
Korea. Father, the photo with the towel on my head looks
uncomfortable. I asked the medium to take the handkerchief
off my head. Is that okay? Please have a long life.
13. Letter from the medium, Mrs. Kim, Young Soon.
When I received Father's direction to get Dr. Lee's information
on all these people, I was shocked and prayed. Then I heard
God's voice that the one who prays hard will be with winner. I
thought to pray for 21 or 40 days. Then Father said I had to
gather all this information within 3 days and come to America.
I started to pray to God. Then Dr. Lee appeared and said, let's
start working. During the prayer, in my car, God said that to
receive such instructions from True Parents is such a blessing,
so be happy.
Dr. Lee continued, "You know Father's character. He wants
everything right away. So let's get to work." Kim said, "But I
have no knowledge about people such as Tojo." Dr. Lee said,
"You don't know, but I know and I will tell you." And so he did,
and she wrote as he told her.
Sometimes I get so exhausted and throw the pen away. So I'm
sorry because these messages are not really complete.
Dr. Lee says, "Thank you Father for believing in me as your
son." Mrs. Kim says the same.
14. Dr. Lee to all Unification Church members.
Law in spirit world is absolute, and there is no change. It is
eternal. The key is the quality of our life in the physical world.
So to reach the standard in physical world, have a mind of
preparing for spirit world every moment. Evaluate every action
in terms of where will it put me in the spirit world? If we
deviate in the physical world, we will be trapped and unable to
escape. Heavenly law is like a trap.
True Father's Words
With this testimony, you must have a general idea of how spirit
world functions. True Parents will restore both worlds and
restructure spirit world. The Old Testament and New
Testaments both deal with spirit world in the form of prophecy,
but there is no clear explanation. The Completed Testament is
the last stage and therefore at the end it will connect physical
world and spirit world. So people will know about spirit world
clearly. Of all Dr. Lee's testimony, there are two main points:
spirit world functions according to principle, and True Parents
are the ones to restore everything.
Regarding Jesus, not even God could marry him, because it had
to take place in the physical world. So only True Parents could
do it. Marriage is like an engrafting. He became a brother to
Heung Jin Nim and they are like one family. Because of this
oneness, Christianity has hope to be restored through America,
the elder son nation.
The 360 million couples blessing is sign of last days. So the
spirit world blessing starts. Elimination of satanic world, the
time of Satan's accusation is over. It is True Parents' time and
authority, akin to the authority given Adam to name
everything. Once Father judges or gives an order, the entire
spirit world will help and support Father. He can order spirit
world to do certain things. As when Adam and Eve were falling
and God would not intervene, again God will not intervene in
what True Parents are doing.